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[00:00:00] Matt: The WP minute. Rewind is brought to you by, Hey, the WP minute, become a member support, the show support content like. At buy me a coffee.com/matt report. By the way, if you are a supporting. And you’re in the discord or you have contributed to the buy buy me a coffee page before you might have received an email from me or a discord message to take a quick survey of your happiness around the WP minute.

[00:00:32] Just trying to do some some gathering of the feedbacks to see if we can improve things at the WP minute. And if you’re just a general listener tweet at us, I almost forgot my Twitter handle the WP minute and let us know what we can do. To improve besides replacing me, we’re going to, we’re going to get into it today.

[00:00:52] Daniel: Oh, 

[00:00:54] Matt: Daniel, you minutes ago, you just, you, you became a content creator. 

[00:01:00] Daniel: I did, I did. It 

[00:01:02] Matt: Don’t sound so happy.

[00:01:03] Daniel: it was nerve wracking. And I already got one of my links, completely wrong in the, the piece of content. So that’s fine. Get it out of the way and mess up early. So 

[00:01:14] Matt: Day one issue, one ever one,

[00:01:20] Daniel: of the tiny press email. So it’s a weekly email. I’ll be sending out every Friday. Basically three different links that I, that I find throughout the week.

[00:01:29] I’m always seem to be gathering these links, so it’s like start sharing it with people and actually put it out there. So tiny press that email.

[00:01:38] Matt: you woke up one Sunday. You have a million ideas in front of you and you were like tiny press. How did you pick that out of your flock of ideas?

[00:01:53] Daniel: I do well, I have a giant my apple notes is filled with all these ideas. I was like three things. One is I want to do something really small. Like I don’t have time for this. I wanted to do a newsletter of the second thing is I wanted to do the newsletter just so I could see what it’s like to put a. And make some content and just play around. And three, you wanted to do something where it was like using the tools that I’d want to use in WordPress. So it’s actually using it’s all in WordPress. It’s using the black editor, it’s using tiny glue, the plugin and just chewing my own dog food basically and putting it out there.

[00:02:33] And then I came up with a, 

[00:02:34] Matt: mean news?

[00:02:35] Daniel: oh, sorry, newsletter. 

[00:02:39] Matt: Okay, this guy is already dominating the world with his brand. That was probably another idea. You had tiny glue and you’re like, oh, I’m just, I have so many ideas now I’ve just smashed them altogether.

[00:02:52] Daniel: micro bubbles of little tiny glue to put things together. 

[00:02:57] Matt: I’ve found that the the smallest [00:03:00] projects, the WP minute included quickly, snow. Into a, quite a management nightmare. Like I find myself in these days,

[00:03:13] 17 podcasts, 13 contributors, all kinds of chaos.

[00:03:19] Daniel: right. Well, hopefully I just keep it small for now and just play around with it. It’s a nice, it’s an easy thing for me to do. Cause it’s something I’m already doing anyways. Like I’m already gathering links all week and finding cool things to work on. So it’s a, it’s going to be an experience. Be.

[00:03:37] Matt: I started kicking around a new side side, side, side, side project myself. 

[00:03:40] Daniel: Ooh. 

[00:03:42] Matt: I’m not ready to disclose the idea 

[00:03:44] Daniel: Okay. 

[00:03:45] Matt: but I will tease everyone with that. It is not WordPress related, it’s podcasting related. 

[00:03:51] Daniel: Oh. 

[00:03:53] Matt: and so I was kicking around. I actually, I had started it, I want to say two months ago and, or like a month and a half ago.

[00:04:03] Family’s been sick. Kids have been sick, then we get sick and it’s been like three weeks of sickness. So I haven’t touched it probably in about a month. And I was pleasantly surprised when I went back. And I thought this was a pretty healthy thing. And I’m curious to know if you’ve done this with your stuff.

[00:04:18] Like I started building it like I was, how am I as a great idea, website domain? Like I tried, I think we talked about this before I tried ghost instead of WordPress first. And I was like, this is terrible. And going back to WordPress and then I, I’ve sort of, I’ve built this whole workflow out using Gravity forums.

[00:04:34] It’s really like the only thing I really need to make this all kind of like come together, 

[00:04:39] Daniel: sure. 

[00:04:39] Matt: In the thick of things, I was like, ah, I don’t know if this is going to work. I don’t know if I really like this and then whatever, this forced three to four week break. And then I went back to it. I was like, oh, this is actually pretty good.

[00:04:50] Daniel: Yup. Yup. I’ve gone through that cycle many times, 

[00:04:54] Matt: Yeah.

[00:04:55] Daniel: but you know, it’s fresh set of eyes, right? Cause you have to, you have to go through the stuff and try it out and mess it up and come back to it. And you realize what you can take away from it really. My issue is I’m usually trying to put so much stuff into an idea.

[00:05:10] So really it’s what can I take out of it? And my wife helps me a lot with those too. Just like talking about it, talking through it and figuring it out. 

[00:05:18] Matt: Yeah. Gravity forms, man. What a powerful, powerful plugin you can do so much makes you wonder if. Some of those features should be in WordPress core, like lead Rex actions, member, registration, login, fields, and boxes. And I know you had a Twitter rant about that. We’ll talk about later something about like stuff that should be in core.

[00:05:41] Daniel: Sure indeed. 

[00:05:44] Matt: One of the big things this past week. I don’t know if you, I don’t know if it came across your radar, but the.com pricing changes. 

[00:05:52] Daniel: Oh yeah. 

[00:05:54] Matt: Wow.

[00:05:55] Daniel: interesting. It’s this is the second time. Maybe it’s even the third time they’ve gotten. [00:06:00] Automatic and word press that comes, gotten scooped by, by the public before they announced something. I had done it as well back in what was it? January? And I don’t even remember what it was.

[00:06:10] It was some Twitter rant. I did, I think it was on the new interface or something. Or I don’t know, it was a store. They had a store in there, the ability to buy, to purchase the WooCommerce stuff. Yep. And this happened I think it got busted wide open by being on hacker news. I think that’s where someone blogged about it and someone posted on hacker news and then it just opened, landed from there. 

[00:06:29] Matt: What was really crazy for me that day was. I didn’t know, I didn’t, hadn’t seen any of that surface yet right on Twitter. And I actually signed up for an account because I was going to help somebody that I know set up a WordPress account. And cause I wasn’t going to, going to use another service.

[00:06:50] In fact, I’ll link this tweet in the show notes. I did it. Survey. It was a quasi 

[00:06:58] Daniel: Oh, yeah, I took that. 

[00:06:59] Matt: survey of like, what would you pick if somebody wasn’t like tech savvy, nor did they have a budget. In fact, let’s talk about those results really quick. So I said, Hey, if there’s somebody out there that wants a website, they’re friends with us, but they don’t have the technical knowledge.

[00:07:15] They don’t have the budget to hire you. You’re not going to do it for free. What would you recommend? Directing them to wordpress.org and let them diy@wordpress.com Wix or Squarespace and percentage wise, Squarespace came out on top 132 votes total to this survey. A Squarespace came out 36, which is right in line with like what I see in my local community of businesses.com 2,600.

[00:07:46] DIY with.org 24%. That was pretty high, I thought. And then Wix 12.9, I guess those headphones didn’t pay off.

[00:07:59] Daniel: I kept giggling here while you were talking about that that’s 132 votes by the way. That’s really good. I kept giggling here because the minute I clicked on that link and brought it up, it showed me that I voted Squarespace. Oh boy. It’s true though. Like, a good, a good example is my name. I can’t really do websites for family, friends, or neighbors. And so I just sent them a square Squarespace because if it’s, I don’t know, wordpress.com, there’s too much explaining I have to do about the whole ecosystem. What a plugin is, what a theme is like, that whole thing, it’s all education.

[00:08:33] And in those types of folks, I can’t really say. Just go to, to learn that we’re pressed at Oregon and learn about it because that’s, that’s kinda just like dumping them off, to do their own education on that stuff. But Squarespace, they just sign up and start moving things around and, like kind of ready to go. 

[00:08:50] Matt: so, yeah, I just like happenstance. I’m in.com and. And I knew that they already had a domain that they had registered. So I was like, yeah, I think [00:09:00] I remember that I can just sign up. I’m pretty sure they could just sign up for a.com account and direct their domain there. And it would only be like maybe 20 or 30 bucks a year.

[00:09:11] And then I’m like poking around and I’m like, why is it 180? And I’m like looking around and I’m like, wait a minute. I gotta be, maybe I’m in some like, pricing funnel that I don’t like marketing funnel. And I’m like trying to like clear cash. And like maybe if I log in and like re log back, I can see a different price.

[00:09:28] Daniel: Is this Canadian dollars, 

[00:09:30] Matt: Right. Is this what is happening 

[00:09:31] Daniel: which actually happened to me. 

[00:09:35] Matt: And so I log out and then I’m like, oh, I’ll take a look at this later. I don’t have time. And then I saw all the headlines coming through about the pricing change and I was like, wow, I literally stumbled on this pricing change that happened today. Like I haven’t logged into the dotcom and forever. 

[00:09:50] Daniel: And you didn’t tweet it.

[00:09:52] Matt: And I didn’t tweet 

[00:09:52] Daniel: shut up. You can have broken ground. 

[00:09:56] Matt: I know God. I’m just a guy trying to run a podcast and a new source and I’m just like, no, just throw it in the back 

[00:10:03] Daniel: Oh man. 

[00:10:04] Matt: So first let’s get let’s. Let’s let’s just talk about the price in general. I don’t think 180 bucks is a lot. 

[00:10:12] Daniel: No, 

[00:10:12] Matt: be, I might be just desensitized to it.

[00:10:14] What are your thoughts on the 180 for the.

[00:10:17] Daniel: I th I think it’s in the terms of, of anything of, of having a side project for $180 a year, isn’t as much having a business. It’s really not as much. I think where it gets weird as if, it’s the scale of the scale of economy, I think where. Some folks might not have that to, to work with right up front.

[00:10:35] And so I really would like it if they do something. Also to be frank.com.org have nothing to do with each other, just so we, we make that clear, but it would be cool if.com somehow had something where like, if you have a hardship or you got laid off or something like that, where, you could apply to get a free.

[00:10:51] Upgrade of all that stuff. And I think that would be, that’d be a tremendous thing. You know what I mean? Especially now with the.

[00:10:57] way The economy is going, I think that that really help. But the price, for a professional, doing something, even if it’s a side project, it seems okay.

[00:11:06] Matt: The basic personal plan at Squarespace’s 14 a month. So 150 ish dollars a year, $160 a year. So you save 20 bucks. I am going to try to weave.oregon.com into my side of this discussion for you. So here’s the challenge, right? So what gut, once I started seeing the headlines, what really interested me, it was like, I wonder, okay, so it’s a hundred dollars, $180 for the whole shebang at.com and from a high level that’s okay.

[00:11:39] WordPress itself. It’s plugins that you can get from.com it’s hosting and through way of hosting at.com. It’s secure. Right. So it’s not like a thing you have to think about. So then I was like, I wonder what they’re doing with automatic. Excuse me with Jetpack. When you go and you buy the whole [00:12:00] shebang at, at Jetpack.

[00:12:02] Now this is really what’s that more interesting story. And we all know, and I know I’ve said it a million times, automatic jetpack.com.org. We’re in an identity crisis. They’re in our product identity crisis, and they haven’t really mainstreamed WooCommerce yet, in my opinion, into any of these offerings You go to Jetpack and you’re like, yeah, give me the best.

[00:12:26] Give me the best that jet pack has to offer. Give me the best of that.com has to offer if you want. The best that.com has to offer you after taxes. Anyway is $191 and 25 cents in America. And the best Jetpack gives you is $381 and 86 cents for the first year, for the first year. And then year two is $1,200.

[00:12:50] And the, what I see here is. Automatic is saying it. And this is how I took it. Automatic is saying, my God, it’s expensive to run the self hosted WordPress website to secure it, to give you these features that make it better to back it up to give you video, to give you forms that give you all the features of jet pack.

[00:13:12] Now, the one caveat here is, and this is where I think they have an identity crisis is they have the CRM built into that 1200 bucks a year. Right? So. Business that needs like a contact solution, right? Like you don’t, you don’t need like a HubSpot or MailChimp or something like that. Like maybe you don’t need it.

[00:13:31] You’re kind of having to pay for it if you want. Let’s say video, because I think that’s what jet pack does really great is their integration with video press, I think is like one of the best features of jet pack because now you’re. know, You have like nice clean, fast loading videos and you can make the argument of having it on YouTube and SEO, but you don’t want that YouTube overlay on your website.

[00:13:56] So any like business was trying to impress a customer might say, yeah, give me that video press thing, but I got to pay for the CRM thing, but $1,200 a year for the whole shebang at Jetpack, to me, that’s automatic saying, whew, boy, you want to, self-host your site as a lot of money, maybe in the future.

[00:14:14] That’s the anchor to say, wow, a thousand dollars to cell phone or 180 bucks at.com.

[00:14:21] Daniel: Wow. Yeah, I’m looking at it. Right. I just went through the whole thing. Well, here, you’re discussing this And I see what you mean. It’s it’s $1,200 after the first year. Wow. I’m in 

[00:14:38] Matt: without we end the show,

[00:14:42] I don’t know. It looks 

[00:14:42] Daniel: I do, I. 

[00:14:43] Matt: do you go ahead? You go

[00:14:45] Daniel: Well, I was just going to say, I do see they have different plans on jet pack, but the thing that doesn’t line up for me is in the in the.com thing, it’s mentioning jet pack essentials, which doesn’t really have a plan over on The other [00:15:00] ones. So it says better SEO, faster loading pages and protection from spam.

[00:15:04] So

[00:15:05] Matt: The idea is that there is a customer set that’s out there who is just like, give me the best. 

[00:15:11] Daniel: Yeah. 

[00:15:12] Matt: just, I don’t want to have to think 

[00:15:14] Daniel: Oh, sure. 

[00:15:15] Matt: modularizing my choices with the website and the jet pack. So there’s some CEO out there that slides the, the credit card across the table to the marketing or the web person that they just bias the best thing.

[00:15:27] Just like, let’s just like, get this thing going. And it’s a pretty drastic. Difference. And then the other conundrum, is it like, let’s say that’s true or let’s say that’s false. Let’s say, yeah. I don’t think dotcom will ever try to piggyback or anchor price anchor against Jetpack. How do you even make the comparison at that point?

[00:15:48] Like the features of jet pack versus the features of.com. So would, would automatic say, oh no, actually there’s more features in jet pack than.com. So that’s a better choice. Is it? I don’t know, like, 

[00:16:02] Daniel: Right. 

[00:16:04] Matt: because you have infinite plugins at.com. So how do you even make that comparison?

[00:16:09] Daniel: Yeah, I think the, the ladder, and I’m sure someone’s made a chart of this internally at automatic, the ladders probably, someone could be on.com, but if they want to have like the full jet pack experience with a distance, they also do search in here for that, that complete package. So up to a hundred thousand records on search.

[00:16:27] And we’ll talk about that in a second. If somebody wants that, they’re going to go to WordPress via. Like, this is going to be an add on to WordPress, VIP probably or something, or their own self hosted site. So they’re probably kicking them off.com and purpose anyway, or at least, it wouldn’t make sense to be there.

[00:16:42] It makes sense to have your own or be on VIP and then VIP. I’m pretty sure all that stuff’s included. Yeah, but the 

[00:16:48] Matt: thinking about VIP.

[00:16:50] Daniel: The thing I was going to mention, this does says it, doesn’t say that they have search and video press for that. I’m going to talk about video press, but the search things very interesting.

[00:16:58] I hadn’t seen that before. So they’ll search up to a hundred thousand records and up till now I’ve been using things like solar or elastic press things like that to do more intense search. And this is very interesting. I’m going to have to check it out. 

[00:17:14] Matt: Yeah. Yeah. And I guess that’s also the thing with jet pack is we’ve been saying it forever. It’s like, man, it just, it does all this stuff. 

[00:17:22] Daniel: Yeah. 

[00:17:23] Matt: And I was like, when they rolled in CRM to it, I was like, Ugh, God, like, I’d be fine. If it was just a standalone product, like, do we need to bring that in? Because now it, it forces this, but I know now you can do the Alec car stuff.

[00:17:36] I just think it’s more confusing for a consumer. Although the jump to VIP might be the thing. So, that might be the thing when somebody outgrows a.com site. Dot com sales team says, oh, okay. You can self-host it. Here’s jet pack. It’s $1,200 a year to run it on jet pack or go to VIP instead. So it might be that opposite direction that I wasn’t [00:18:00] thinking of, where they you outgrow.com.

[00:18:02] They offer chat pack. Somebody says no way. I’m not going to go buy hosting. And 1200 gimme VIP.

[00:18:09] Daniel: Yes, but I can’t divulge much, but I know the prices for me. I’d be here much more than, than a license for Jetpack. 

[00:18:16] Matt: Oh yeah. I used to, I used to sell against them when I was at Pagely, so we’re talking thousands a month, but, but they would what’s the other one that they purchased from Sid years ago. 

[00:18:26] Daniel: Oh, pressable. 

[00:18:27] Matt: pressable so that might be another thing that they do.

[00:18:32] Daniel: Yeah, that’s a good point too. Pressable somewhere in that mix. Also in the hosting landscape, I think, it’s a very interesting time, I think, to be doing this stuff. And as, as most of my clients are on the, enterprise level as well as my full-time job. So all the things that we do are, I’m actually looking at this, like I might get the complete Jetpack, like that actually makes a lot of sense in some, some areas of what we’re trying to do.

[00:18:53] Matt: Yeah,

[00:18:56] Daniel: Very cool. 

[00:18:56] Matt: The. Other interesting angle on this is that they’ve already adjusted. So the crowd went wild, FYI it’s opening baseball day today in America, the crowd went wild when it was announced and they’ve already made some changes. They being.com has already made some changes, right? They went from, they were trying to give plans, free plans, 500 megabyte.

[00:19:19] What are we apple? 

[00:19:20] Daniel: Yeah, that’s 

[00:19:21] Matt: hoarding the storage prices. And they’ve already, they’ve already changed that to let’s see one gigabyte for storage. And I had somebody reach out to me when they made the pricing changes representative from.com and reached out to the WP minute to announce it and get a little press coverage on it.

[00:19:38] And I actually just emailed them back before we hopped on the call. And they, they asking for an interview and they’re going to make some further changes and they want to wait a little bit on an interview until they roll out like another clear plan on, on price, new pricing packages. So the other theory I have is this is all making, making way for for a, a WooCommerce price on.com 

[00:20:02] Daniel: Oh, yeah. 

[00:20:03] Matt: price on that.

[00:20:04] Daniel: Yeah.

[00:20:04] Well, I mean they did before. That’s what I actually have tested that out. Previously, there was like a whole commerce package focus things. I don’t know, or they’re just going to do them as just add ons, I guess that’s where the store comes in. 

[00:20:22] Matt: Who knows, who knows you? Did a Twitter rant again? 

[00:20:28] Daniel: Oh yeah. 

[00:20:29] Matt: you keep Twitter ranting. People are going to start calling you Matt. Madeiras 

[00:20:32] Daniel: I’m trying to be very

[00:20:33] Matt: that.

[00:20:34] Daniel: I’m trying to be nice though. This one was about specifically about, I was trying to use the query block. There’s a lot of, a lot of work that I’ve done at my, my full-time job for my full-time job. I work at Pinellas county government and we are in the middle of a website redesign.

[00:20:48] And so we’re actually almost complete with it. We’re going to a final testing phase, basically. But I’ve been looking at the query block and like, man, like if I seen this like a year and a half ago, when we started [00:21:00] this journey, I probably would have used that in some different instances for some of the stuff we were doing, rather than creating some custom ACF blocks, with advanced custom fields.

[00:21:09] But then I was playing around with it and I’m like, I really can’t do much with it because there’s no custom field block per se to actually show. Custom fields that are somewhere else. And I don’t know if it’s just the way I build sites, but, but oftentimes like, like a good example is we have executive orders at the, at the county level.

[00:21:28] And so those executive orders Have them build a whole page and put the executive order in there. I should just give them fields. And so it’s like a classic, a custom post type editor type of situation. And they’re just filling out the fields, that’s it. And then wherever I want it to display, I’m doing that, right now I’m doing that with an ACF block and pulling in what I needed to pull in.

[00:21:44] But it’d be great to do that with like the query block, but the problem is right now, it’s not able to actually do that. Like you can really have as the title some of the meadow, like the date and the author and stuff like that.

[00:21:56] But that’s about it. The excerpt, and the featured image. 

[00:22:01] Matt: Yeah. The, as somebody who tried creating a product for what was it, Cory block before blocks, where a blocks 

[00:22:10] Daniel: Okay. 

[00:22:11] Matt: with conductor that was building the WordPress query and building a UI for it, and then wrap up. It’s not just, can I pull anything and everything out of WordPress, as, as a developer and I’m not, I’m not a developer, but there is the WordPress query and it’s just confined to whatever the WordPress query can do.

[00:22:31] But when you’re selling that to the public at large, they’re like, why can’t I just select all posts with the word red in it and just like take the featured image and do whatever. Like it’s not, it has to follow these rules. So it is a very challenging. Product, but that is like once they hone that, hone that down the query product, the query block and make it better.

[00:22:55] That’s when we will truly see the power of like no code WordPress building right out of the.

[00:23:04] Daniel: it’s gonna be pretty, pretty amazing once that’s once I said, and I’m not knocking anyone about it, not being there necessarily. It’s just, it’s just, it’s a bummer because I can’t really use it yet. And I’m not going to get a developer to go through and create a new block with react and do all that stuff and things like that.

[00:23:22] But Friend of the WP minute, and I believe a producer, even a robot med and she’s putting together she hinted that she’s putting together a little, something like that inside of inside of, I guess, a plugin or something, maybe she’s, she’s working on that might work a little bit more like, how elementary does it, so Elementor has those.

[00:23:41] Like a little ability for any field. Basically you can put in a variable from something from a custom field or from some of the site site meta. So stuff like that, that’d be really cool that, that, that alone, that thing would completely change the game on how I would build sites, because then I could adopt full site [00:24:00] editing more and I could go that direction and see what that’s like. 

[00:24:03] Matt: Yeah. Yeah, it’s very it’s a very powerful feature. And I guess that not that all Ruba needs any advice from me, but those types of plugins or that the query block, the feed. People who follow me and follow the show has, have heard me talk about this a million times, Drupal, CCK, and views.

[00:24:21] I think we even talked about this in the last rewind episode. Like that made me feel powerful. Like I was a developer, but not a developer. And that’s what I think anyone who’s going to succeed with a query block, whether that’s core or Ella mentor or, or Ruba or anyone else is. There’s going to be a fine balance of how much of the technical query you’re giving somebody and how powerful it makes you feel like how quick you can build a query without too much stress so that you feel.

[00:24:54] And it’s a very hard balance. I totally get it. But that was one that I was trying to strike with conductor. When I was trying to build that. Yeah, the demise of that was really the customizer because yeah. Making the bed on the customizer was a failed BA of course. Anyway, it’s like making that the user feel powerful and in control of something that is largely pretty scary to them, and that is PHP and my SQL blah, blah, blah, blah.

[00:25:20] So.

[00:25:21] Daniel: And that that’s been my that’s been my outlook on things, as well as I’m real big proponent of the no-code movement, even though I’m a developer. And I think a lot of people are puzzled by that, but the reality is I don’t even want to code. Like, I just want to be able to literally, I would love to be able to have everything just be virtual and I’m moving my hands around and play some things where I want them to be like, if I could just do that, then you know, that.

[00:25:46] that to me is the ultimate.

[00:25:47] If we could do that before. Cool. That’d be terrific. 

[00:25:52] Matt: Let me ask you this question. Let’s go back and do some product entrepreneur therapy. 

[00:25:57] Daniel: Oh, 

[00:25:58] Matt: Now that tiny presses live, do you have to give up another sidebar?

[00:26:02] Daniel: No, I don’t think so because That’s what the beauty of this stuff is. Right.

[00:26:05] Matt: That’s the doom right there. That’s doomed. You’re doomed. 

[00:26:09] Daniel: it’s just 

[00:26:09] Matt: think I have to give up anything. 12 projects. No problem. At.

[00:26:13] Daniel: It’s just something on the side. I do have a, so a lot of the projects I’ve been doing, getting them to automate as much as possible. For like this for the tiny press thing, it’s actually not as big of a hurdle because for the links, I’m already bookmarking them on my Twitter feed.

[00:26:28] Like that’s usually where I’m finding good things. So, that’s, that’s really not, not a chore for me and I can pull them out at the end of the week. I’m actually using reviewed. To bubble those up for me, cause review tapped right into the system. And the way I do it is I might see them on my shuts Smith, Twitter, but I’m actually going to my tiny press Twitter and that’s where I’m going ahead and actually favoriting them.

[00:26:49] So I set that all up to do that moving forward. And then for things like WP live streams, directory, like that’s my other main thing where I would usually sit down and every Sunday, [00:27:00] add in the upcoming online events just to keep that calendar alive. 

[00:27:06] Matt: I’d catch it. I knew I’d catch you in some kind of therapy session. You start talking about it out loud, like yo holy Christ. I have a lot of stuff I’m doing.

[00:27:13] Daniel: that, that one is it is a little wild because I have to manually add those in, but The fine folks over at the events calendar have actually gone ahead and helped me figure out how we can automate that with mostly with meetup. Which is great because a lot of the ones I’m pulling from are from meetup anyways. But, the, the way I put together WVU live streams, directory isn’t that it shows every single online thing that’s happening so I can curate it still and then put those stuff in there, but it’s not set up yet. We’re very close. There was a bug. I believe that that I found for them. So they’re fixing that now, but we’ll see, then that will be automated.

[00:27:46] And then I’ll move on to another side project.

[00:27:51] Matt: The WP minute discourse is going to come rally at a rally at your side. And as soon as you throw in another idea that everyone’s going to like, man, Hey man, how about you? Take it slow down.

[00:28:01] Daniel: That’s going to be pitchforks pretty soon. 

[00:28:02] Matt: Two last articles I want to throw into the rewind that are from the. Contributors. First one is overcoming the challenge of selling clients on WooCommerce written by Eric Clark evac. That’ll be linked up in the show notes and published about an hour ago. Why WordPress must have a standardized framework before we move forward with blocks written by and spoken by Spencer foreman.

[00:28:26] You can find both of those on the WP minute.com and linked in the show notes. Below become a member of the WP minute, am I going to buy me a coffee.com/matt report? We do this thing called hashtag link squad inside discord folks, and go into the links channel. They can drop a link and say, Hey, this is an interesting link.

[00:28:48] I’d like this to be included in the news, coming up, throw a little hashtag link score. And my Zappia robots grab it. They put it into a database that Raquel and pat and I can look at when we write the weekly script and that’s how folks can contribute and get news into the newsletter, curate the news yourself and now available on Twitter.

[00:29:09] So if you’re a WP minute producer you’re on a special list on. Under the WP minute producers list. And if you retweet or tweet a link with hashtag link squad, you don’t even have to log in to discord to contribute and shape the weekly WordPress news. Oh. 

[00:29:30] Daniel: know that. 

[00:29:31] Matt: become part of the link squad@buymeacoffee.com slash Matt report.

[00:29:37] Where do you want folks to go to tiny press?

[00:29:39] Daniel: Very useful. Yeah. The latest stuff is tiny press. That email that is really the domain that email, and you can sign up there. It’s a three-word press links sent to your email inbox about design development and we’re press and every Friday. So today was the first issue. And so you can go ahead and sign up for the next. [00:30:00] 

[00:30:00] Matt: Dot email. It’s like a, it’s a $25 a year domain.

[00:30:03] Daniel: I have no clue. It’s in the name, cheap arsenal. It’s you know, it’s when I, I believe I honestly, I probably purchased it like while we were watching bingeing some show and I was like, this is a great idea. 

[00:30:16] Matt: Yes. Yes. I got a rash of those emails. This is why I’m being so hard on you today. Cause I for whatever reason, March last year was a time where I registered a bunch of stupid ideas and all of those domains came to renewal this, this month. And I was like, no, no, no, maybe no, no. And it felt good. And I just want you to experience the same thing.

[00:30:38] Daniel: Oh, we should maybe just read off the domains next time. 

[00:30:44] Matt: yeah, 

[00:30:44] Daniel: Just go through 

[00:30:45] Matt: Here’s the one that expired last year that I am willing to say outline out loud, polarized sunglasses.com got rid of it.

[00:30:52] Daniel: Oh, there you go. There you go. 

[00:30:56] Matt: one day I’d make like an affiliate site for polarized sunglasses.

[00:31:02] It’s a WP minute. Rewind the WP minute.com. The WP minute.com/subscribe. Your host Daniel should Smith. Matt Madeiras. Thanks for listening to everybody. 

[00:31:11] Daniel: Bye-bye.

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